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Assassin's Creed Valhalla joins Game Pass today, here's why you should play it

  • Posted on 10 January 24 at 11:32, Edited on 10 January 24 at 11:37 by FightingMegaFoo
    In all likelihood, you will never get all the achievements in this game, so take that into consideration. Only 1% of TA players have done so. 227 hours in, and I don't think I'll ever complete it. Personally, it's because there are flying pieces of paper that are too hard to catch, I haven't even tried the Mastery Challenges yet, and the Forgotten Saga DLC is just too difficult since you have to start over from scratch when you die.
  • PakhairPakhair514,420
    Posted on 10 January 24 at 11:44
    I loved AC, couldn't wait for another bit since they went all-in RPG. My fondness has degraded greatly, it's not like I hate long games but they are so much same same and after few great hours become a chore

    Go to next map clear everything go again. It's so daunting that I am always afraid to play.

    I loved every ac before origins, origins ain't bad but it too is very long. Odyssey which I have yet to complete, felt looooong, and I got tired by formula. I mean you play for 4-5 hours and your progress is nothing to show off

    I have completed every AC 100% and I mean synchronization not achievements. But the length of new games is abnoxious.

    Try to make them slim or great like RDR 2, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Final Fantasy, Witcher then we are talking or trim your games ubi

    80 hours should be ideal completion for 100%
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  • psybOltOnpsybOltOn424,951
    Posted on 10 January 24 at 14:54
    Allgorhythm said:
    psybOltOn said:
    I'm not sure what you talk about as micros are not any more present than in Origins or Odyssey and even less than in some older titles, where marketplace weren't separated as is now.
    The higher DARPU is not because Ubi pushing it more, but simply because it's more common to buy useless digital stuff than X years ago.
    Also if you feel you want to spend money on a Unicorn to ride in Norway while cutting down your enemies with a neon sword, it's your problem, not Ubisofts.
    There were two issue I brought up. One is personal preference. I don’t like MP games. I played the first 3 AC games. I quit before playing IV because I felt MP had intruded too much at the expense of telling a captivating story.

    The second issue is Ubisoft’s approach. They were pushing DARPU. They made it clear in their press release that they tracked DARPU diligently in all their live service games & were thrilled with how well Valhalla performed in that regard. I thought it to be in poor taste & is not the way I would have promoted the game.

    I’m not averse to buying cosmetic enhancements. I remember equipping the protagonists in FF XIII with Mass Effect N7 armor.

    I realize my personal tastes should not drive a publisher. Moreover, I don’t m an to sound negative. I look very favorably on the franchise and intend, one day, to get back in it. Nevertheless, it’s not just my personal tastes. Ubisoft has acknowledged the series has become somewhat bloated & presented Mirage—originally planned as a Valhalla add-on—as an offering to get back to AC’s original roots.
    That is fine and I have similar preferences, but what I'm saying those preferences have nothing to do with Valhalla as it doesn't have MP, (there weren't MP im the last 5 AC titles) it is not live service game and the marketplace is completely separate and optional.
    As for Ubi looking at metrics like DARPU, well it is a company which needs to make money. Don't misunderstand me, Ubi is not a saint at all but maybe we can forgive them they don't want to go bankrupt.
    In exchange their games are always discounted and many of them comes to GP.
  • psybOltOnpsybOltOn424,951
    Posted on 10 January 24 at 15:01
    FightingMegaFoo said:
    In all likelihood, you will never get all the achievements in this game, so take that into consideration. Only 1% of TA players have done so. 227 hours in, and I don't think I'll ever complete it. Personally, it's because there are flying pieces of paper that are too hard to catch, I haven't even tried the Mastery Challenges yet, and the Forgotten Saga DLC is just too difficult since you have to start over from scratch when you die.
    The papers are easy to catch. Just activate one, learn their route and you can always do shortcut and wait for it to arrive after it resets.
    Mastery Challenges are challenging but that's it. I think there were harder/more frustrating AC achievements before.
    Forgotten Saga is also easy as you actually getting stronger (after each run you can upgrade health, defense, etc) and if you find a good weapon / skill, there is option to buy them for your next run.
  • AllgorhythmAllgorhythm650,533
    Posted on 10 January 24 at 17:26
    psybOltOn said:
    That is fine and I have similar preferences, but what I'm saying those preferences have nothing to do with Valhalla as it doesn't have MP, (there weren't MP im the last 5 AC titles) it is not live service game and the marketplace is completely separate and optional.
    As for Ubi looking at metrics like DARPU, well it is a company which needs to make money. Don't misunderstand me, Ubi is not a saint at all but maybe we can forgive them they don't want to go bankrupt.
    In exchange their games are always discounted and many of them comes to GP.
    Understood. I'm responsible for some confusion. The reason I stopped playing MP games is because I avoid playing MP games no matter how good they are. I felt AC games were exceptional but I stopped playing after III because of the MP issue.

    Since then, I've considered jumping back in to the series. One of the games I considered to use a launch pad was Valhalla. However, around the time I was trying to decide whether or not to play it, TA published the article. It just rubbed me the wrong way as if Valhalla was a tool to squeeze money out of people.

    I should point out, as I said before, I have nothing against cosmetics and, if I come across some I like, I buy them. I know developers and publishers are in business to make a profit. I just don't expect them to come right out and say how their games are revenue generators. I feel they should take a more customer facing approach and explain how their games are designed to entertain the players.
  • Posted on 10 January 24 at 18:01
    Origins also lets you play as a ranged assassin. A minor update or two on the archery skills make the bow lethal with headshots for the most part. Before getting the blade, it's the assassin tool to use. Even with the blade, I used it quite often for stealth/silent takedowns.

    I agree that Odyssey's combat is its main strength. I have over 200 hours of playtime because of that combat system. It's just fun to take down forts like an ancient John Wick.

    TymanTheLong said:
    Here’s my take (granted just from a free weekend or maybe two free weekends): I loved AC Odyssey (Black Flag is my second favorite AC game but Odyssey is my favorite). Odyssey is an endlessly evolving world which has a dynamic quest system that actually cracks the code of what I call “play prompts” which are exactly what they sound like: the video game equivalent of writing prompts. Go do a quest and often the gameplay just emerges, sometimes before you even get to the quest.

    Odyssey really opens up once you understand the gearing system and once you quit trying to be a traditional assassin. Your character is the Spartan grandchild of Leonidas, when kicking the door works, you KICK IN THE DOOR and it’s glorious. Odyssey is the on AC entry that actually lets you be a ranged assassin. Finally, in AC Odyssey you wield not one but two Isu artifacts thr equivalent of The Apple of Eden, you develop demigod level power and the game reflects that in gameplay. All in all AC Odyssey is just fun.

    But AC Odyssey was panned vocally online and the developers of Valhalla, I guess making the common mistake of thinking Twitter is real life kept ending every message to the community with some variation on “… completely unlike Odyssey.”

    And true to their word they did make it unlike Odyssey, mostly by removing all the fun.. Sadly it does carry over a lot of Odyssey design but what’s left are mostly grindy bits and a needlessly confusing skill tree. The settlement is fun but nothing new, imagine if your settlement in Black Flag (Great Inagua?) had more upgrades that offered more services. You can change colors on a map to “your side” which is unsatisfying (again, they took out the fun bits). I just can’t imagine 120 hours of what I’ve found so far.

    Playing Valhalla for free does change the value a bit, there’s surely some story there and maybe the DLC is wild like so many AC DLCs and merits playing (but then again, makes playing it “not free” again).

    All in all, message me if you need help with your Odyssey build.
  • OBlockMafiaOBlockMafia160,562
    Posted on 10 January 24 at 18:10
    Ratio jump
  • TymanTheLongTymanTheLong541,295
    Posted on 10 January 24 at 21:12
    cardcrusher2 said:
    Origins also lets you play as a ranged assassin. A minor update or two on the archery skills make the bow lethal with headshots for the most part. Before getting the blade, it's the assassin tool to use. Even with the blade, I used it quite often for stealth/silent takedowns.

    I agree that Odyssey's combat is its main strength. I have over 200 hours of playtime because of that combat system. It's just fun to take down forts like an ancient John Wick.

    TymanTheLong said:
    Here’s my take (granted just from a free weekend or maybe two free weekends): I loved AC Odyssey (Black Flag is my second favorite AC game but Odyssey is my favorite). Odyssey is an endlessly evolving world which has a dynamic quest system that actually cracks the code of what I call “play prompts” which are exactly what they sound like: the video game equivalent of writing prompts. Go do a quest and often the gameplay just emerges, sometimes before you even get to the quest.

    Odyssey really opens up once you understand the gearing system and once you quit trying to be a traditional assassin. Your character is the Spartan grandchild of Leonidas, when kicking the door works, you KICK IN THE DOOR and it’s glorious. Odyssey is the on AC entry that actually lets you be a ranged assassin. Finally, in AC Odyssey you wield not one but two Isu artifacts thr equivalent of The Apple of Eden, you develop demigod level power and the game reflects that in gameplay. All in all AC Odyssey is just fun.

    But AC Odyssey was panned vocally online and the developers of Valhalla, I guess making the common mistake of thinking Twitter is real life kept ending every message to the community with some variation on “… completely unlike Odyssey.”

    And true to their word they did make it unlike Odyssey, mostly by removing all the fun.. Sadly it does carry over a lot of Odyssey design but what’s left are mostly grindy bits and a needlessly confusing skill tree. The settlement is fun but nothing new, imagine if your settlement in Black Flag (Great Inagua?) had more upgrades that offered more services. You can change colors on a map to “your side” which is unsatisfying (again, they took out the fun bits). I just can’t imagine 120 hours of what I’ve found so far.

    Playing Valhalla for free does change the value a bit, there’s surely some story there and maybe the DLC is wild like so many AC DLCs and merits playing (but then again, makes playing it “not free” again).

    All in all, message me if you need help with your Odyssey build.
    I played Origins after Odyssey so it was harder to enjoy a much more primitive version of the bow system. My main problem with it was the skills were attached to bow type and you could only have two equipped. This also led to an ammunition problem anywhere but a fort (forts usually had enough quivers that you could reload). Predator bows even maxed out only had something like 11 shots. Lack of crafting really hampered the fun at times.

    But you’re correct in noting that Origins was the first AC to attempt to allow serious use of ranged weaponry, I just felt like it felt a hair short of letting one be basically 100% ranged.
  • Posted on 10 January 24 at 22:26
    Titan Mars said:
    Dylan Hase said:
    You shouldn’t play it because it’s bad.
    I actually thought it was pretty good. I didn't play 120 hours, but around 85 or so. Besides the ending not paying off, the journey is pretty good. A solid 8/10 game imo.
    It's a decent game. I put my time into it and enjoyed it. The problems with it is that it feels like a missed opportunity. There was a lot that could have been done in a Vikings setting that they didn't do. And coming in after the amazing experience that was Odyssey, it had some very large shoes to fill that it ultimately couldn't quite do.
    The 80s had the best music. The 90s had the best movies. The 2000s had the best games. What do you have to offer?
  • Posted on 10 January 24 at 22:29
    FightingMegaFoo said:
    In all likelihood, you will never get all the achievements in this game, so take that into consideration. Only 1% of TA players have done so. 227 hours in, and I don't think I'll ever complete it. Personally, it's because there are flying pieces of paper that are too hard to catch, I haven't even tried the Mastery Challenges yet, and the Forgotten Saga DLC is just too difficult since you have to start over from scratch when you die.
    I thought it was easier to perfect than Odyssey. The base game, not the DLC. That's where I feel Valhalla really dropped the ball.
    The 80s had the best music. The 90s had the best movies. The 2000s had the best games. What do you have to offer?
  • Dylan HaseDylan Hase733,025
    Posted on 11 January 24 at 07:19
    WillGoss12 said:
    BlackEyedMonkey said:
    Dylan Hase said:
    You shouldn’t play it because it’s bad.
    Counterpoint: It's good.
    Not because the game is beautiful that it means it's good
    Oh yeah I forgot. Good graphics makes the game good
  • SkinfasstSkinfasst478,858
    Posted on 11 January 24 at 07:28
    This is such a pointless and poor quality "article".
  • Posted yesterday at 16:50
    It is really good!
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